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				Hotel room
				Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:28 pm
				by Janusz Biela
				My last test render.
I tested some idea and oversample tool.
This renders  have 30 bounce light and standart setup.. Time 30- 90 min.
			 
			
					
				Re: Hotel room
				Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:15 pm
				by erwin zwart
				Johny_quick wrote:My last test render.
I tested some idea and oversample tool.
This renders  have 30 bounce light and standart setup.. Time 30- 90 min.
spill the beans!!
great renders!
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:18 pm
				by sat
				The images look amazing.  
 
 
Do you mind to share your kray settings?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:49 pm
				by ana028
				Wonderful Johny.
			 
			
					
				Oversample ?
				Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 5:31 pm
				by aci
				What do you mean about oversample ? I'm new to the "Kray-World" and I wonder how you do these incredible images ??!!!
			 
			
					
				Re: Oversample ?
				Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 6:24 pm
				by Janusz Biela
				aci wrote:What do you mean about oversample ? I'm new to the "Kray-World" and I wonder how you do these incredible images ??!!!
Oversample is standart metod for add some samples (V-ray use it too)
When You use normal render, Kray can`t  add enough amount of samples  (it is normally) .
In Tailer CMDS type:  prerender 1,4,0.01;gradients_neighbour 0.01
prerender 1,2,0.01 -   2 is two pass, 0.01 sensitve
gradients_neighbour 0.01  - sensitve smooth samples (equivalent FG)
When use oversample You can use lower setup FG (min/max 400/800 or lower), lower FG is faster AA 

 etc, etc.
Btw: G. promised increse speed and better detection "oversample".
In this test render time: normal 2:45 min, oversample 4:50 min., uncache: 9 min.
Of course this test have global setup, for closeup You need better spatial tolerance.....
Rest is good light and textures 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 8:58 pm
				by larry_g1s
				PHOTOREAL  
 
 
Gorgeous JQ, simply gorgeous! Man...I've gotta get good at Kray.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:32 pm
				by phile_forum
				Gorgeous.
I just tried out your oversample settings too! Nice...
Phil
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:39 pm
				by _mats_
				yes ! top notch !!!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:00 am
				by weepul
				Very nice...what were your photon settings?  Could you post a Photon estimate/Precomputed render for our information? 

 
			
					
				Re: Oversample ?
				Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 6:27 am
				by larry_g1s
				Johny_quick wrote:aci wrote:What do you mean about oversample ? I'm new to the "Kray-World" and I wonder how you do these incredible images ??!!!
Oversample is standart metod for add some samples (V-ray use it too)
When You use normal render, Kray can`t  add enough amount of samples  (it is normally) .
In Tailer CMDS type:  prerender 1,4,0.01;gradients_neighbour 0.01
prerender 1,2,0.01 -   2 is two pass, 0.01 sensitve
gradients_neighbour 0.01  - sensitve smooth samples (equivalent FG)
When use oversample You can use lower setup FG (min/max 400/800 or lower), lower FG is faster AA 

 etc, etc.
Btw: G. promised increse speed and better detection "oversample".
In this test render time: normal 2:45 min, oversample 4:50 min., uncache: 9 min.
Of course this test have global setup, for closeup You need better spatial tolerance.....
Rest is good light and textures 

 
I'm new to Kray also, I still don't understand what oversample is. You say lower FG is faster AA, but the time went up from 2:45 min to 4:50 min. I'm not following ya.  

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:59 am
				by silverlw
				I post the answer here too: Oversampling will be added to GUI as it also is in for example blender/yafray but they call it refinement. Read more at 
http://wiki.yafray.org/bin/view.pl/User ... ayLighting
More samples always take longer time to render.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:07 pm
				by sat
				Hey Johny_quick,
I forgot to ask something. What do you mean by "30 bounce light"? Is this the number of light bounces? If so, where do you adjust this setting?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:08 pm
				by Janusz Biela
				SaT wrote:Hey Johny_quick,
I forgot to ask something. What do you mean by "30 bounce light"? Is this the number of light bounces? If so, where do you adjust this setting?
type in tailer cmds:  recurse 30;
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:17 pm
				by sat
				Thank you.