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				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:41 pm
				by talats
				Great job Janusz, really impressive and I can't wait to put my dirty hands on the new update of Kray  
 
 
Anyway just a question: if it has been possibile to make Kray see LW instances, why it is not possible to make it see Fiber FX? I mean, for a wonderful green or a carpet, maybe it would be more useful Fiber FX than Lw Istances...
 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:12 pm
				by dballesg
				Janusz Biela wrote:Alek6 wrote:It means that you'll improve Kray instance or just use instance of LW11 with Kray?
Imho is nonsense make it in Kray. LW11 Instance is so perfect tool...so Kray use it now in beta release.
 
Those are really bad news. That means it will kill Kray for those of us that we still use LW 10.  
 
 
And LW 11 instance tool is not so perfect, you need only to read a bit of the problems people is having with it on the NT forums!  
 
   
 
David
 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:08 am
				by Janusz Biela
				dballesg wrote:
And LW 11 instance tool is not so perfect, you need only to read a bit of the problems people is having with it on the NT forums!  
 
   
 
David
 
Comparing to Kray instance believe me: is perfect....
 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:23 am
				by Alexos
				dballesg wrote:
And LW 11 instance tool is not so perfect, you need only to read a bit of the problems people is having with it on the NT forums!  
 
   
 
 
Problems? Well - it's a new tool, so there are a few (minor) bugs that need to be ironed out; and it doesn't do EVERYTHING, so there have obviously been feature requests. But overall? It's a fantastic implementation, far superior to HDInstance (which was pretty damn good to begin with!) and to Kray's own system, which from my tests is admittedly faster but lacks the extraordinary amount of control you get in Lightwave's version. Frankly I would have been worried if Kray had not been upgraded to work with native instancing, the preview alone makes quite the difference... it's the right choice imho. 
In fact... maybe LW instances rendered within Kray 
will be faster than the native engine! Ha, that'd be fantastic.
ADP.
 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:30 pm
				by medzo
				what were render times?
			 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:36 am
				by Janusz Biela
				medzo wrote:what were render times?
was around 10-15 min (are  complex geometry with small details so phase of AA are  long). Btw instances from Lw or Kray doesn't affect speed - this is just cloning, matter are  geometry and engine render.
 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:12 pm
				by Janusz Biela
				Looks quite crazy but I like control by texture.
			 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:30 pm
				by Keraressi Abdelkarim
				this is lw render janus ?
			 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:46 pm
				by Janusz Biela
				lightwave3d wrote:this is lw render janus ?
 
 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:59 pm
				by khan973
				Awesome! Cool thing is we can see them wireframe and even with VPR!
Plus NT just released a LW11 sp1 with instancing fixes.
DP Instance can plug on LW instances. So is it possible to control Kray instances with DP plugin?
			 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:50 pm
				by jure
				khan973 wrote:Awesome! Cool thing is we can see them wireframe and even with VPR!
Plus NT just released a LW11 sp1 with instancing fixes.
DP Instance can plug on LW instances. So is it possible to control Kray instances with DP plugin?
yes  it works also with DP Instancer.
 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:37 pm
				by talats
				Any news about the Kray 2.5 release? Come on guys, we are all waiting to use the LW11 istances in Kray 

 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:48 pm
				by jure
				Still waiting for Newtek to help us out on this one...
			 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:00 pm
				by talats
				jure wrote:Still waiting for Newtek to help us out on this one...
Still waiting? Sometimes i cannot understaind Newtek... Kray is the only valid, powerful and fast 3rd party Render Engine for LW and they didn't answer yet...
 
			
					
				Re: Instance from LW11
				Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:02 pm
				by jure
				talats wrote:jure wrote:Still waiting for Newtek to help us out on this one...
Still waiting? Sometimes i cannot understaind Newtek... Kray is the only valid, powerful and fast 3rd party Render Engine for LW and they didn't answer yet...
 
To be completely honest they did answer, but it didn't help any. So now we are waiting for a better answer.