Where is the demo version ?

ana028 · Post by **ana028** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:24 pm

Hil all, last day I enter in kray web and I can see that the demo version isn't for download. I don't know why the demo version isn't for download. Thank you.

Post by **jure** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:16 pm

It has been removed because it's obsolete. New demo will probably be out after next major release.

ana028 · Post by **ana028** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:31 pm

At the moment I think buy kray in the future but I want to make real tests before to buy and for the moment the demo version that I have 1.612 doesn't run in my lw9.2.

Post by **jure** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:17 pm

Well you can either wait for the new demo version, which should come out after 1.7 is released, or you can take advantage of special price and jump on board now...

PrintF · Post by **PrintF** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:42 am

Ana028 wrote:Hil all, last day I enter in kray web and I can see that the demo version isn't for download. I don't know why the demo version isn't for download. Thank you.

at this moment kray 1.612 is very hard to setup and optimize render...
I try new global render in lw9.2, and found it much easier... and so on I can use fprime 3.01 for Preview

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ana028 · Post by **ana028** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:25 am

Which global render did you used PrintF ?

PrintF · Post by **PrintF** » Sun May 20, 2007 3:29 am

Ana028 wrote:Which global render did you used PrintF ?

LW9.2 render - final_gather or monte_carlo. For preview - Fprime 3.

but sometimes I back to kray 1.612... kray create light as vray and I like it

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rb · Post by rb » Sun May 27, 2007 12:15 am

Is there already a demo version. Also why is only one guy using kray so good? Is it different to setup scene in kray compared to lightwave and fprime? Does it support displacement like vray? lightwave needs vray equivalent so bad before its too late.

Post by **jure** » Sun May 27, 2007 11:37 am

rb wrote:Is there already a demo version.

There is no demo version yet.

rb wrote:Also why is only one guy using kray so good?

I don't know who you mean? I've seen awsome renders from several users...

rb wrote:Is it different to setup scene in kray compared to lightwave and fprime?

It is not very much different but you have to take into account some special things which make Kray run faster and better...

rb wrote:Does it support displacement like vray?

It supports LW displacements (except APS).

rb wrote:lightwave needs vray equivalent so bad before its too late.

I agree.

rb · Post by rb » Sun May 27, 2007 12:41 pm

jure wrote:
rb wrote:Is there already a demo version.
There is no demo version yet.

rb wrote:Also why is only one guy using kray so good?
I don't know who you mean? I've seen awsome renders from several users...

rb wrote:Is it different to setup scene in kray compared to lightwave and fprime?
It is not very much different but you have to take into account some special things which make Kray run faster and better...

rb wrote:Does it support displacement like vray?
It supports LW displacements (except APS).

rb wrote:lightwave needs vray equivalent so bad before its too late.
I agree.

i see. I hope people can try it out soon before many lightwave users switch to cinema 4d, etc.

I see only johny quick making renders the same quality as vray. Maybe he should make tutorial from surfacing to lighting a good interior not just simple room in kray same as some people do in vray forums. Then give him discount with kray or is he already given. Lol!
What I like in vray renders is displacement carpet,fur, grass. There's nothing like that in lightwave.
It would be nice if people start already a database like maxwell material library. The library here is so few. That would attract many more users.
Already theres talk that lightwave dying in europe and only strong in US. I hope this will not happen I love lightwave.

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Sun May 27, 2007 6:47 pm

What the heck are you talking about? Vray is a great renderer, but it is not as perfect as you make it out to be. It will not automatically make your images look stunning. If i had a penny for every time I've seen a shitty Vray render, I could probably buy myself a license of 3dsmax and Vray.

Skill is what counts. Vray has great potential, but unless the user knows how to wield it, it is all for naught.

Post by **jure** » Sun May 27, 2007 6:55 pm

Captain Obvious wrote:What the heck are you talking about? Vray is a great renderer, but it is not as perfect as you make it out to be. It will not automatically make your images look stunning. If i had a penny for every time I've seen a shitty Vray render, I could probably buy myself a license of 3dsmax and Vray.

Skill is what counts. Vray has great potential, but unless the user knows how to wield it, it is all for naught.

Couldn't agree more. Vray is probably one of the most over-hyped render engines out there.
The fact is that Vray has extremely large user base which potentially also means a lot of great artists...

rb · Post by rb » Sun May 27, 2007 10:30 pm

Anyway the point is only kray for lightwave can match vray. But only a few people use it then no matter how good it is you will not see its potential used by the non elite. So as early as possible kray should be mainstream to help lightwave userbase. So far the best archiviz renders come from vray, maxwell, c4d. Maybe its the many userbase but still more high quality work is still more and that means more marketting power for a platform. Already people were praising modo for render engine. Lightwave should do the same.
I love lightwave!

Captain Obvious · Post by **Captain Obvious** » Mon May 28, 2007 4:11 am

Anyway the point is only kray for lightwave can match vray.

You still fail to comprehend that it is not great renderers producing great renders. It is great ARTISTS. There's no magical program for making things look good. Vray will give you splotches. Vray will give you noise. Vray will make you think that your renders take too long! They all do! Rendering interiors with GI as the primary lighting method takes ages in ANY renderer!

Edit: That is not to say that different renderers have different strengths, mind you, and some are indeed faster than others. But the idea that Vray is the end-all, be-all of rendering, or something such, is just absurd.

juice · Post by **juice** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:33 pm

jure wrote:..., or you can take advantage of special price and jump on board now...

...advantage of special price ?
more info please

www.kraytracing.com